Spiritual issues:
--Various qualities of Apostles or Prophets, and
--Waging Spiritual warfare until total decimation and annililation of the enemy is achieved.
A recent post#3179 on Watchman-seers-usa, was titled: "Weighing the weight of many different prophetic voices". Exhortations were to: "study the Scriptures relative to SEDUCING spirits, for this is one of the great dangers of these last days."
Whatever the "prevailing evil spirits" are over a region or nation, is it not wise to study virtually all of what the scriptures say about that?
In the year 2000, there should be very few true Apostles or Prophets that lack the financial resources to own and operate Bible Software that very quickly allows word studies of virtually all the instances of any particilar word cited in cannonized
scripture.
The Apostles of old ALSO spent considerable time & effort "studying" the scriptures so that they could authoritatively speak "the words of this life" message unto the unsaved, as well as demonstrate forth various "signs" or "miracles".
I humbly ask God, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, that all the "Jannes and Jambres"{2 Tim 3:8, men untried and untested in the great breath and width of the scriptures} no longer remain ignorant of THE TRUTHS of ancient times.
In HVoice study ATTEMPTING to examine ALL the scriptures on "seduce" or "seduces" or "seducing", I find these tentative conclusions.
The O.T. word #06601b PATHAH is used many time.
It's basic meaning is to "use smooth or flattering words" to gain a desired outcome. Hence the general rending into the English as words such as: "deceive", "entice", "seduce"; but some also render the meaning with such diverse words as: "persuaded",
"prevailed", "coax" and even the rendering "simple".
Whether in the natural realm or the spiritual realm, the usages and meanings are contextually fairly self-explanatory. i.e.
NAU Exodus 22:16 "If a man SEDUCES a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, ...
NIV Judges 14:15 On the fourth day, they said to Samson's wife, "COAX your husband into explaining the riddle for us, or we will burn you and your father's household to death. Did you invite us here to rob us?"
NIV 2 Samuel 3:25 You know Abner son of Ner; he came to DECEIVE you and observe your movements and find out everything you are doing."
NIV Hosea 2:14 "Therefore I am now going to ALLURE her; I will lead her into the desert and speak tenderly to her.
NIV Deuteronomy 11:16 Be careful, or you will be ENTICED to turn away and worship other gods and bow down to them.
NIV 2 Chronicles 18:20 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will ENTICE him.' "'By what means?' the LORD asked.
NIV Proverbs 1:10 My son, if sinners ENTICE you, do not give in to them.
NAU Jeremiah 20:7 O LORD, You have DECEIVED <06601b> me and I was DECEIVED <06601b>; You have overcome me and prevailed. I have become a laughingstock all day long; Everyone mocks me.
NIV Ezekiel 14:9 "'And if the prophet is ENTICED to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel.
In the O.T. the word CHALAQ #2505b (9x) means "to be smooth or slippery".
Hence the common rendering into English as "flatter", "flatters". However it is also rendered by some English translators as: "smoother" or "smooths" or "faithless".
NAU Psalm 5:9 There is nothing reliable in what they say; Their inward part is destruction itself. Their throat is an open grave; They FLATTER(#02505b) with their tongue.
NIV Psalm 36:2 For in his own eyes he FLATTERS himself too much to detect or hate his sin.
NIV Proverbs 2:16 It will save you also from the adulteress, from the wayward wife with her SEDUCTIVE words,
NIV Proverbs 28:23 He who rebukes a man will in the end gain more favor than he who has a FLATERING tongue.
NIV Isaiah 41:7 The craftsman encourages the goldsmith, and he who SMOOTHS with the hammer spurs on him who strikes the anvil. He says of the welding, "It is good." He nails down the idol so it will not topple.
NIV Hosea 10:2 Their heart is DECEITFUL, and now they must bear their guilt. The LORD will demolish their altars and destroy their sacred stones.
NAU Hosea 10:2 Their heart is FAITHLESS<02505b>; Now they must bear their guilt. The LORD will break down their altars And destroy their sacred pillars.
The N.T. word DELEAZO #1185 is also apparently used 3x.
Its basic meaning is "to lure". It is frequently rendered in the English as "entice", "enticed" or "enticing", but it is also rendered "seduce".
NIV James 1:14 but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and ENTICED.
NIV 2 Peter 2:14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they SEDUCE the unstable; they are experts in greed-- an accursed brood!
NIV 2 Peter 2:18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they ENTICE people who are just escaping from those who live in error.
I have read and considered "the weight or merits" of ANZAC recent posts:
A VISION: "THE APOSTLE", From Matthew J. Burdette;
While Intercessors Slept, By Hollie L Moody;
For the Soul of America, By Bryan Hupperts;
I have read and considered "the weight or merits" of watchman-seers-usa recent posts:
Post#3069, Thu, 09 Nov 2000: Forwarding Prophesy concerning Florida (Bill Hamon- 1997).
Post#3180, 11/18/2000; PROPHECY This Battle For Florida Is Over!
Post#3181, The Florida Quagmire, by Mark W. Weaver.
I have read and considered "the weight or merits" of numerous pages documenting Prayer and Intercession being waged in Florida as per URL site
http://www.covcentre.org, i.e.
Current Prayer Strategies for Palm Beach County and the Presidential Election of 2000;
Excerpts from a message given by Jonathan Benz at Covenant Centre International, November 10, 2000;
1. A Prophetic Word to Palm Beach County
2. Intercession for Palm Beach County
3. Open Message to the Church regarding the Prophetic Season for Palm Beach County
4. Prayer Strategy for Palm Beach County for this Hour
That http://www.covcentre.org site, also has MANY email letters from around the world whose eyes are looking at Florida.
While many known or unknown Prophets have spoken about Florida, the most succint words summarizing God's Sovereign moving are these:
A) Please War with this Word of the Lord over Florida!, Bill Hamon in 1997
"This State is a gateway into the nation. It is a gateway for many things, but we close the gate to the devil and we open the gate to the righteous...
"Satan, we are not deceived by you any more! Jesus is Lord, Jesus is King; and Jesus is going to release His glory over this place. From this day forward a new decree has gone forth, a new day has dawned and a transition is going forth. The glory of the
Lord shall be established and God's kingdom shall come forth."
"Arise, oh saints! Arise on Church! Arise mighty angels and come forth because we are taking over in the spirit, God is taking over in the natural and the Kingdom of God shall reign yet in this place in Jesus' name. Amen and amen, so be it. Glory! I
believe it is done.
B) Current Prayer Strategies for Palm Beach County and the Presidential Election of 2000.
1. A Prophetic Word to Palm Beach County
"For the Spirit would say you have not begun to see what I am doing and what I am going to do in this hour and in this season. You have seen but a glimpse of my move. You have seen but a glimpse of my wave in this land for I am ready to pour something
out upon you that you are not ready to hold at this time. Yet because I am good I will pour it out upon you any way. I will give you containers to hold My goodness to overflowing."
"And the Spirit of the Lord says if you will only rise up, if you will only hear, if you will only listen to what the Spirit is saying to you at this time and will respond and will obey I will pour something out upon your land that will shake even
nations and kingdoms. For my move is not over among you. My move is not over. My move is not finished. I have greater waves to pour out upon my people. Lift up your eyes and see. Lift up your eyes and look and see the redemption that is coming to your
land. Lift up your eyes and see the redemption that is coming to your coastlands. For I am shaking kingdoms in your city and in your county for which you have warred for years. Years in which there has been petition and supplication. Yet I have chosen
and I have so ordained THIS time to shake kingdoms, to bring down kingdoms and to raise up My kingdom. For there is a shaking in the heavenlies even in this hour."
"And the Lord says it is not because of your righteousness but it is because there is a remnant in the land that has not ceased to cry out to Him and to call on His name for redemption. And because that remnant has been faithful in this land, He is now
bringing visitation. "
"The Lord says do not look and let your hearts be troubled or dismayed, but look and let your hearts rejoice because redemption has come near to your house. Rejoice that redemption has come near to your city. Redemption has come near to your county, to
your state and to your nation. For He is about to release a fire to this land that we have not seen before. This fire will consume. This fire will purify. This fire will refine. This fire WILL come."
2. Intercession for Palm Beach County
"So we say, Lord, SEND FIRE. Send your fire. Send your fire to this land. We call on Your name in this hour. Lord God of hosts. Lord of the armies. Lord of the universe. God of the nations. The only one God who has ever been and who ever will be.
The eternal, everlasting. The God who sees and hears. The God of kingdoms. The God who raises up kingdoms and who tears down kingdoms. We call on Your name in this hour. We say Lord of the armies, release your sword over this land. Lord, we say in this
hour release your sword in the armies of earth and in the armies of heaven. Release your sword that war may be waged in this land on behalf of our nation and the nations. "
"Lord, increase your government in the Church in this hour. Increase your spiritual government. Increase the apostolic mantle upon the Church in Palm Beach County and the Church of South Florida in this hour. Lord, release greater authority to your
Church in this hour to bind and loose. To dare to tear down the kingdoms that you decree and to raise up the kingdom of our Lord."
"Lord, we don’t ask for fire for ourselves. That’s not why we are here, Lord. We are asking for fire for our city and for our county. We need your fire, Lord. Our land needs your fire. Lord, from our county commissioners to those protesting on the
streets tonight, they all need the presence of your fire."
"Those who walk IN PRIDE, You are able TO HUMBLE. And, Lord, You have seen THE PRIDE and THE ARROGANCE of those who live in our land. Lord you have seen THE SHAME and the scourge of Leviathan and how it manifests through the people of our land.
Yet, Lord, You are able TO HUMBLE and bring down those who exalt themselves IN PRIDE. And, Lord, You are doing that now, in this hour. You ARE HUMBLING Your people in Palm Beach County."
"And Lord where we have thought ourselves RICH, You are showing us POOR before You. Where we have thought ourselves powerful, and that we have great gain, You are showing Yourself among us. You are making us to be known as those who do not have power and
as those who do not know their left hand from their right hand. Lord, You have taken the wisdom of the leaders and of those who have walked in our land and You have exposed it AS IGNORANCE before You and before the nations."
And even a relatively unknown email letter sent to http://www.covcentre.org, and posted therein:
C) November 16, 2000, Shalom Johnathan Benz
"I just finished reading your posting about Palm Beach county on the Elijah List.
And all I can say is, I'm so excited. I lived in Ormond Beach for a year and a half back in 1989 -1990, during which time I got saved. We then moved back to Toronto the city I grew up in, and one day in mid 1993 while driving truck I had the most
profound open vision of my life."
"In this vision the lord was showing me a coming time of visitation to Florida, that was uncompared to the history of mankind. I was in tears for almost two hours, and who was driving the truck I still don't understand. He showed me people who were
mentaly infirm being totaly healed and supernaturaly given a wisdom and education they never physicaly recieved. Children with MS, and other disfiguring and disabiling deseases totaly set free and made whole. Wheel chairs being emptied and forever being
discarded. But the one thing that touched my heart deep down inside during this two hour visitation was the strong, strong understanding that this visitation would diffinitely include the jewish people like never ever before in history. I strong believe
that this coming visitation of the Lord will be unpresidented, and will see the salvation of hundreds of thousands of jewish people, coming to know and accept Yeshua Ha Messiach as thier Messiah."
"But who knows if this is not the visitation which will begin in Florida and then spread to the nation of the USA, and beyond your borders to reach Israel."
"So my brother be encouraged, I know that I know you will see the Lord, and in great power as never before. May He arise in your midst and shake the nation with His Holyness and everlasting kindness. May un-numerable number of peoples be swept into His
loving arms of grace, and may He truely come fill you heart so that you may see His face.
(From Israel)"
Closing thoughts from HVoice.
Most people "marvel" when signs or wonders are done in the physical realm. i.e.
Physical heaings such as the ones just described.
BUT, WHAT IF those "healings" spoken about are JUST AN EXAMPLE of the "spiritual healings" and "signs" that are suppose to occur.
...people who were mentaly infirm being totaly healed and supernaturaly given a wisdom and education they never physicaly recieved...
...Children with MS, and other disfiguring and disabiling deseases totaly set free and made whole...
...Wheel chairs being emptied and forever being discarded...
...strong, strong understanding that this visitation would diffinitely include the jewish people like never ever before in history...I strong believe that this coming visitation of the Lord will be unpresidented, and will see the salvation of hundreds of
thousands of jewish people, coming to know and accept Yeshua Ha Messiach as thier Messiah.
THAT each of these concepts were also SPIRITUALLY symbolic!!
HVoice's website has been on the internet for almost 8 years. His current URL continues to be:
http://homestead.juno.com/vberardi1/files/hvoice.htm
His opening page is: Welcome to The Voice of the Home Consultant.
HVoice is a
--Preacher of Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, as well as
--A Preacher of repentence from sexual licentiousness and reform of corrupt U.S. laws which continue to promote and protect sexual licentiousness, as well as
--A Preacher of walking in the light of Jesus Christ The Apostle.
HVoice applauds Gammadim in having enough humility to publicly post his prophecies for all the church to weigh the merits thereof. I also applaud him trying to explain WHY he chose his website name. The meaning of Gammadim in Ezekiel 27:11 is rendered by
English translators in different ways. i.e. as "men of valor", "brave warriors", "valorous men". Yet others interpret the same word as meaning "short-swordsmen".
Contrary to the post#3180, 11/18/2000; PROPHECY This Battle For Florida Is Over!, by GAMMADIM VISION, HVoice respectfully believes that THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE OVER Florida is just commencing!!
Why?
Because of THE FACTUAL study submitted by Sat, 18 Nov 2000 Post#3181: The Florida Quagmire, from Mark Weaver, whereby succint exerpts from his public post says:
1) "I am a lover of American history. I frequently visit the local library and check out books and magazines on the subject."
2) "The article tells the story of the botched war between the U.S. government and the Seminole Indian tribe during the years 1835 and 1843. According to the article, U.S. Army troops, led by Brevet Major General Thomas Sidney Jesup, DECEIVED the
Seminoles ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS BY using a flag of truce to gain entry onto Seminole ground, and then captured Seminole leaders."
3) "A number of saints these days are pursuing "spiritual mapping" in prayer and warfare. I thought the parallels were interesting. Do any of you think they are significant? I don't know if this particular story is old ground that's already been covered,
but I thought I would pass the discovery of mine along simply because of the theme of DECEPTION and the words "legal chicanery."
Also in conjuction with THE FACTUAL study just referred to,
4) The 1965 prophecy warning about VISION OF COMING DECEPTION cited prevailing spirits named "seducing spirits" and "deceiving spirits".
So WHY hasn't every single church in these U.S.A. heard about HVoice's website?
5) From the Prayers of the Intercessors in Florida recent prayers, HVoice wishes to close with three key paragraphs OF THEIR prayers and petitions offered up to God. i.e.
"Lord, we don’t ask for fire for ourselves. That’s not why we are here, Lord. We are asking for fire for our city and for our county. We need your fire, Lord. Our land needs your fire. Lord, from our county commissioners to those protesting on the
streets tonight, they all need the presence of your fire."
"Those who walk IN PRIDE, You are able TO HUMBLE. And, Lord, You have seen THE PRIDE and THE ARROGANCE of those who live in our land. Lord you have seen THE SHAME and the scourge of Leviathan and how it manifests through the people of our land.
Yet, Lord, You are able TO HUMBLE and bring down those who exalt themselves IN PRIDE. And, Lord, You are doing that now, in this hour. You ARE HUMBLING Your people in Palm Beach County."
"And Lord where we have thought ourselves RICH, You are showing us POOR before You. Where we have thought ourselves powerful, and that we have great gain, You are showing Yourself among us. You are making us to be known as those who do not have
power and as those who do not know their left hand from their right hand. Lord, You have taken the wisdom of the leaders and of those who have walked in our land and You have exposed it AS IGNORANCE before You and before the nations."
In His Service, from one who believes he is but one modern day Apostle and Prophet sent forth to declare bright light into the basement structure of the Church (at large).
HVoice,11-19-2000.
